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Lost In School

Dear Angy,
I am a student in California at UCLA and my biggest problem is that I always feel lost in such a big school. Most of all I feel like people here are so much smarter and it’s easy for me to feel like I don’t belong, let alone my status makes it that much harder to feel welcomed…any advice?
Thanks,
Lupe

Lupe,
Thank you for your e-mail and being so honest about this issue, I’m sure you are not the only one. Fitting in and being able to fully participate on campus is so different compared to high school. Not only is the school bigger but we have grown up a lot more now. Once we graduate high school we realize that all the crap folks stressed about back then, are irrelevant now.

Who is the best dressed at prom? Who will the Homecoming Queen be? Did you see that new girl over there?

Now our worries have become bills. especially tuition bills.

How will I pay for school? I can’t find a job, will I still go to school this semester? What if I get stopped by the police? Will I get detained or deported if I apply for this?

All these feelings, questions and responsibilities keep us from being fully involved in school. We spend more time working, crying, traveling and sometimes organizing rather than studying or just enjoying college. I can totally relate to this, my school is a commuter school. Everyone comes and goes, it’s hard for me to get that whole college-y experience we see on TV and in movies because I just can’t stay on campus all day or have to take semesters off. I cannot afford to dorm and so I have to travel back and forth from school. Many times I’ve had to leave to go to a meeting, event, or because I would be tired from working all day before and wanted to sleep. In high school I was very active, because I had more time on my hands and the building was smaller so you get to know everyone faster. Also, I had the same people in my class. In college, you won’t get the chance to meet every single person, but you can get to know a few people here and there that will make class, and possibly outside of class, time more enjoyable.

In my case, I started talking about the Dream Act and being undocumented in class. Sometimes, students come up to me afterwards saying how brave I am and that they want to help out, so we exchange contact information. Some professors invited me to speak to their classes about being undocumented and now I’m in the process of creating a club on campus that will be a safe space for undocumented youth and our supporters. I tried to join a club on campus but I didn’t really feel comfortable in any.

Fitting in can be awkward, difficult but it’s also irrelevant…no one is telling you you HAVE to fit in or belong. It’s okay to stand out, to be different, to just be yourself. No one else can be you. By the way, you got accepted into the same school, the same way everyone else did, there’s no way you are less smart or less valuable because of your immigration status.

I don’t know how comfortable you are when it comes to speaking about your immigration status, but when you do it, you find support and unity in places you never imagined. Also, you can hang out at different college departments, you’ll meet youth there too and they’re probably in the same boat you’re in. I believe UCLA has a student organization called IDEAS, maybe you can take a look and see if you like what they do. You can join undocumented youth led organizations in California and plug yourself in off campus.

Let me know how it goes and if things start feeling better on campus. However, don’t lose yourself trying to fit in or feel unworthy in such a big school. Everyone else is insecure about many things as well, even though they try to pretend they got it together and know what they’re doing, I bet they don’t.

<3
Angy


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Continuing My Education

Hello Angy,
I am part of the Dream Act group on facebook. I will be graduating soon from Community College and I was wondering about four year colleges in New York City (I saw you are attending CUNY) anyway money is an issue. Do you have any suggestions?

Hey,

It’s nice to e-meet you! Congratulations on your upcoming graduation. I am very proud of you and I really hope you are able to further your education in a four year institution of your choice!

Yes, I do attend a City University of New York (CUNY) school named John Jay College of Criminal Justice. CUNY’s are somewhat divided into what you want to study. Some colleges focus more on education and becoming teachers others focus on nursing and so on. There’s a more detailed list here.

Money is an issue for me as well so I totally understand your concerns. I am assuming you are not from New York, correct me if I’m wrong, and so you wouldn’t qualify for in-state tuition unless you meet these requirements.

Since a CUNY college is public they do not offer financial assistance to undocumented students. In the past they had the Peter Vallone scholarship but that has been cut from the budget. There is also the Macauly Honors program I’m not really sure if a transfer student can apply but you should definitely ask them, if accepted they will cover all if not most of your college expenses. You can also apply for private scholarships, but again these are very limited.

Currently within the CUNY system our tuition is going up and so every semester gets more difficult to pay off. CUNY schools offer payment plans through Sallie Mae. This program splits up your tuition payment depending on what the school allows. For example, under Sallie Mae John Jay splits up my tuition into 6 equal payments. This makes it easier because you don’t have to pay the whole bill at once, but finance it. However, you must pay a registration fee and late fees for late payments as well.

As an undocumented youth you cannot legally work on campus so work study is a no no. There are some private universities that accept undocumented students and will even pay off a large majority or sometimes the whole tuition. There isn’t a specific list but there are some colleges that accept undocumented students overall and just categorize them as international students, some only accept students with visa stamped passports even if it’s expired. If private universities are in your radar, I suggest you call ahead of time and ask about their undocumented student policies. You can call and pretend to be someone else so you don’t have to tell them it’s for you. If they say that undocumented youth are not allowed at their school, don’t be discouraged there are plenty of colleges to choose from.

I hope this helpped and let me know if you end up coming to school here so we can meet =)

Love,
Angy


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does a social keep me safe?

Dear Angy,
I am an 18 year old living in New Jersey. With Christie as our governor, there is no way the Dream Act is going to pass. I go off to college in less than a year, and I am really worried as to the limitations on my opportunities. For one, what do I label myself when filling out an application? I have an expired visa but I don’t have a social security number. And my family and I do file for taxes each year, and I have a job at Staples. That confuses me even more. Does having a social security number secure me?
Thank you! -Jen

Jen,
Thank you for your email, being brave and open about such a confusing issue.
I don’t know if the way things are in New York is the same in New Jersey, here, if you have an expired visa there are more chances of getting into private universities. When applying I believe you are labeled as the visa which you came into the country with even if it’s expired.

Don’t forget to be open with the administrators and staff in school about your situation. Many times they’ll offer more help and find ways of getting you into the school of your choice at a smaller or no cost. Don’t be shy to say you’re undocumented. As confusing as it may be for you it is hard for them too, staff many times are not properly prepared when it comes to having undocumented students. I know being undocumented and stating it is scary but if you don’t ask for help it is difficult to know that you need it in the first place.

Start creating a folder or file with all those important documents like your parents taxes, your IDs, passport etc so when you meet with school staff or any other administrators it’s not a hassle and you’re forced to make two or three trips. These school visits can be pretty annoying. It’ll be less stressful if you have everything at hand.

Having a job or an expired visa doesn’t take away from the fact that you are still undocumented. Being undocumented, regardless of how you came into the United States or what you’re doing now, still puts you at risk. I know many folks talk about being privileged or advantaged because some youth have jobs or came with visas but at the end of the day we are still undocumented, we can still be deported, we are still limited, confused and excluded.

Finally, I don’t really believe a social security number makes anyone ‘safe’. Many documented people are still being discriminated against and harassed even though they have papers. There are records of citizens being wrongly detained under secure communities and other similar programs. Having a social may secure you a job; however, documented people can still be fired or denied from jobs, be rejected from schools and even be homeless. Many United States citizens can be wrongly deported as well. Having a social security number doesn’t take deportation away especially in a mixed status household. For example, my siblings are citizens and they fear that our family can be separated because of deportation; even though they are documented, deportation is still an issue. Finally, many documented youth are being denied opportunities because their parents are undocumented. As you can see our immigration system is so flawed and administrators are racist and stereotypical that everyone is getting screwed over regardless of immigration status. These are things we want to highlight as proof that we need real change, and we need it now.

Jen, I understand that navigating this system can be stressful, annoying and confusing but it can be done. We just need to be patient and resourceful. When one door shuts another one opens, and if it doesn’t then we create the exit. Don’t stress out too much and take it one day at a time. Putting all your hope and resources into the Dream Act, federal or state level, can have an emotional toll on anyone. Don’t sit around waiting for it to pass because honestly we don’t know if it ever will pass. Yes, we can advocate and push for it but we also need to live our lives and not stay stuck in one place waiting for one bill. I know this may sound harsh but the Dream Act isn’t the only way out and we have seen this in 2011 with the rise of many state bills. Hang in there! and feel free to email me if anything.

Best,
Angy


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